Comments on: The Contribution of the Manor to the Settlement and Growth of Virginia http://virginiagenealogyblog.com/2008/07/07/the-contribution-of-the-manor-to-the-settlement-and-growth-of-virginia/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:42:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: admin http://virginiagenealogyblog.com/2008/07/07/the-contribution-of-the-manor-to-the-settlement-and-growth-of-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-342 admin Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:08:51 +0000 http://virginiagenealogyblog.com/2008/07/07/the-contribution-of-the-manor-to-the-settlement-and-growth-of-virginia/#comment-342 I received these clarifications on the "lease for three lives" from a genealogy friend of long standing and I would like to share them with you, AE: "Having researched extensively in the Northern Neck (Old Prince William) for the last 18 years, I see variations in land laws among the 5 jurisdictions. There's more to be said about changing the names on the leases, when & why this was done, and how to find the information. Leases for lives were not always for 3 lives. I've seen 2, and even 5 lives on leases. To say the lives were "usually" the wife and oldest son will lead people astray. I don't find that to be true. Fauquier folks were much better at recording their leases than those in Loudoun. There are very few original leases recorded in the Loudoun county records." Ms. Marty Hiatt, CG Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency and evaluation and used under license to the Board’s associates. This is a good example of what I called English Law with an American Accent. In the British Isles, especially in Ireland, the lease for three lives was for three lives for the most part. Sometimes only two lives are specified in writing. I have never seen one for 5 lives--WOW, what a genealogy find that would be. Many thanks to Marty Hiatt for her comments. Arlene Eakle I received these clarifications on the “lease for three lives” from a genealogy friend of long standing and I would like to share them with you, AE:

“Having researched extensively in the Northern Neck (Old Prince William) for the last 18 years, I see variations in land laws among the 5 jurisdictions. There’s more to be said about changing the names on the leases, when & why this was done, and how to find the information.

Leases for lives were not always for 3 lives. I’ve seen 2, and even 5 lives on leases. To say the lives were “usually” the wife and oldest son will lead people astray. I don’t find that to be true. Fauquier folks were much better at recording their leases than those in Loudoun. There are very few original leases recorded in the Loudoun county records.”

Ms. Marty Hiatt, CG
Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency and evaluation and used under license to the Board’s associates.

This is a good example of what I called English Law with an American Accent. In the British Isles, especially in Ireland, the lease for three lives
was for three lives for the most part. Sometimes only two lives are specified in writing. I have never seen one for 5 lives–WOW, what a genealogy find that would be. Many thanks to Marty Hiatt for her comments. Arlene Eakle

]]> By: Eileen Phelps http://virginiagenealogyblog.com/2008/07/07/the-contribution-of-the-manor-to-the-settlement-and-growth-of-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-337 Eileen Phelps Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:51:40 +0000 http://virginiagenealogyblog.com/2008/07/07/the-contribution-of-the-manor-to-the-settlement-and-growth-of-virginia/#comment-337 I'm very interested in this book you're working on about Virginia jurisdictions. I hope you include information on precincts, as described in the tithables. In those areas that did not have any organized towns these descriptions may be the only location names more specific than county. They are critical for common surnames. I wish I had a list of the surviving tithable lists for each county in Virginia and where they might be found. The Family History Library has three volumes of Norfolk County Tithables, from originals that languished in a shed undiscovered for many years. (I would like to buy copies of these books.) Some counties may have tithables online and some counties may not have any records like these that survive. I’m very interested in this book you’re working on about Virginia jurisdictions.

I hope you include information on precincts, as described in the tithables. In those areas that did not have any organized towns these descriptions may be the only location names more specific than county. They are critical for common surnames.

I wish I had a list of the surviving tithable lists for each county in Virginia and where they might be found. The Family History Library has three volumes of Norfolk County Tithables, from originals that languished in a shed undiscovered for many years. (I would like to buy copies of these books.) Some counties may have tithables online and some counties may not have any records like these that survive.

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